#42 Manifesting, Purpose and Transformation w/ Affirmation Musician Toni Jones

TONI JONES served for six years as a Life coach and Mental Health advocate for women and youth. Now as an Affirmation Musician, she found creative ways to promote the message of conscious well being through her music. Toni started making music as a tool for her life coaching clients to practice healing on the go. After great response from her first album she decided to make music full time. She has since released five projects so far: Affirmation for the Grown Ass Woman, Affirmations and Chill, I See Me Mantras, and Get Cha Mind Right (the mental health mixtape) Toni’s music is healing music, she coined it as Affirmation music. Affirmations set to modern music; which is different from the traditional way of saying Affirmations and mantras that are usually set to o relaxing new age music. By creating affirmations to modern music this allows the listeners to ride, be on the go and vibe, just dance to the music while still reciting healing words.
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And with that, let's welcome to the show. Tony Jones. Hello. Hi, Danny. How are you? Hi, I'm fantastic. And I'm so honored to have you on here. You're my fanciest guests to date my goodness. Everyone's going to absolutely fall in love with you the same way I did. I start most of the episodes the same way asking one powerful question, which is what does manifesting.

What does manifesting mean to me? Okay. As of right now, what manifesting means to me is being the vibration of the desire. It's the embodiment of it's the energetic embodiment of the desire. You know, it's not the way that I was introduced to manifestation was wishful. Type of approach, but now it's about being the energetic embodiment of the desire that you wish to bring forth into this reality.

So that's what manifesting is. I love that. And because you open the door, I got to walk through it. So how were you introduced to manifesting? Cause I know a lot of people come to that hopeful wishy kind of definition of manifesting through things like the secret. How were you introduced to manifesting?

That's what, that's, what it was. It was literally that documentary called the secret and I was just like, these concepts resonate so much. But in as much as I guess enlightening the documentary, you know, was it's it, for me, it just was just an introduction. It didn't give me a curriculum on how to actually go about adopting and translating these ideas and concepts.

Into practice, you know, it was just like, I just got excited and develop the zeal about knowing that there was another way to, you know, this game of life. Yes. I love that. So it was like an introduction. And what was it that brought you from that little. Tastes that it gave you into understanding like, oh, this is all vibes and I got to match it so I can get it.

I mean, life right life just, I mean, my great grandmother used to say, you keep living, you're going to keep learning, you know? And so I think that's. Like brought me to the understanding and it, my understanding is continuously expanding and growing, but essentially it was life that taught me how to like go from the zeal to the understand.

To the embodiment, you know, I love this and I got to say like, I'm low key fan girling, right? Yeah. Now, because as you were talking, I felt like I had a beat in my head and it was just like this, the next song. What's going cadence to how you speak and I'm digging it. Okay. So, okay. You started your manifestation journey with a secret, but tell us about your, your, your general life flow.

You do this beautiful affirmation music. Everyone loves it. We're getting our entire life. And we see you as the embodiment of that person. Who's helping us with that. What helped you with your journey? Where did you start? And like, even not just manifesting, but spirituality at large. What helped me with my.

Journey.

I have to say, just, just be honest with myself, you know, just being authentic with myself, like not lying to myself, like once I'm aware, it's like, there's no outwitting. The truth of what I am aware of that is what's helped me throughout my journey. You know, it's scary. I mean, it's scary to watch people who think they're so aware of themselves.

And because the thing about it is relationships is what actually helps you reflect. You met to you, and I've watched people who don't allow that to happen. And I get scared of that. Meaning, like I don't, because it's like, there's this private silent, like how can, how can you say stronghold is this private silent stronghold that keeps them in the dark of themselves?

And I'm like, so for me, I've always felt this conviction when I witnessed that in people, you know, You know, relationships are with people. I'm just like, it's not even about taking the opportunity to judge them or show them them. It's like, oh my God, I could be like that too. I wonder what bullshit I'm believing.

That's keeping me from seeing myself because I don't want to be conscious and think I know about myself and know all this knowledge and understanding, but still allowing the strong hold of. Self-deception keep me from seeing myself, you know, because when you grow and expand, there's certain there's clues to your growth.

There's clues to expansion, you know? And when I'm not experienced in those clues, I'm always able to be like, okay, God show me me because I'm, this is, I feel like I'm here. I feel like I'm very aware. I think I feel like I know a lot, but God still showing me. Like I'm humble enough to know that there could be some blind spots don't allow me, don't leave me to myself.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think that's, what's helped me along my journey is that the authenticity with mine, divine self. And to know that there is an Aussie. Divine Ida sees all more than I see, you know, with my own intellect or ego and consciousness, you know, that's, I will happen to say that has been a core catalyst to my.

I love that it feels like, you know, show me me. Okay. Here's a new layer. It feels like every time you would ask that question, you will always be shown something. There's some Pandora where you don't see or aren't revealed in player. And it's scary and beautiful. A show me, here we go. And no matter what I had to go through it and live to it, or we just stay on the same.

Running the same over and over. So you sound very, very conscious, very spiritual. Tell us about your journey to that. Like, take us back to young Tony old Tony before, before capacity, Tony and let us know what, what brought you from there to here? The old Tony, the young Tony. Let's see, I was, I was a charge.

You know, I was on fire for the Lord, you know, I was trying to save souls for the Christian army. That was, and it was very much a passion. I loved it. It wasn't because I felt like I have to do this to be a great Christian or because there's a Hale. It was like, I love. Like sharing the gospel with other people because of how it made me feel.

So it was like, I want other people to feel this type of liberation, excitement about their soul as much as I am, you know? So it was like, I felt like I had to share, you know? And so I don't know, it was just like, it was like these points in my life where it was just these questions, which I call sacred.

Where you start to where it's something that happens to where you start to just be curious about how much is true and how much is not true. You know what I'm saying? So that late yeah. Awakening of sorts. And that just led me on this path. Thinking, you know, one of the things that I pride myself on is seeking.

Like, I'm not someone that's just gonna sit and be like, okay, this is the way it is going to be. No, I'm I have a, a seekers. You know, and so for me, it's that has led me from going from one level to another level, awakening to another waking, a character building upon character mindset, evolving my mind, say emotional intelligence to another level of emotional intelligence.

I the level, I guess, the, the vastness of my capacity, a whole space. For growth is it's impressive to me because I don't know where I got it from. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, how did I not get stuck in my ways? Like, how did I continue to grow in this way? But I will say that my foundation was, you know, I don't shame it because it's the foundation of my moral compass, if you will, you know?

And so. For me, it was a matter of my journey, just being curious and wanting to grow, you know, and it got me to a point of just opening my mind to learn, to read, to seek out and to search, but. You know, essentially it started with the church, it started with the church. For sure. Yeah. I really love that.

You say you don't, you don't shame it. You don't condemn it because know many women who are on a war, new thought new conscious new paradigm type of. Thinking and spirituality are, are operating and they look back at their time in the church,  as like, oh, I can't believe I spent so much time believing that or like, oh my gosh, I had the wool over my eyes and it's it's sometimes makes me sad cause I didn't grow up in the church.

So I don't have that connection or any unlearning to do. But it kind of sometimes makes me sad. Like that's a part of your story. So, and you know, that's a part of your building blocks, so I'm glad that you embrace it as like, this is where it started. It started from over here and now, you know, I've leveled up in multiple ways.

I love it. So in your bio we mentioned that you started as a life coach and a mental health expert or advocate, and now you're doing this affirmation new. Sidebar. You were saving souls as a kid for God's army, but now you're saving souls in a whole new musical way. I know. I see the continuity. Yeah. So you're living your purpose from then to now, but I want to know about your transition from doing the mental health advocacy to the music.

I know we have a lot of creatives who listen to this, to this podcast and are probably like, oh my gosh, I want to do that too. I want to live in my creative slash spiritual truth. How can I? Yeah, well, you know, I remember, I don't know. I was so dramatic and I still am dramatic. I've accepted that, but I remember in 2012, And the school that I was about to go back to, I was about to go back to school to get my bachelor's degree in psychology.

And when they told me how many years that it was going to take for me to graduate, I think it was like two and a half years. I was just because I had all my credits transfer and because I had been out of school for years. And so when. They told me that two and a half years. I'm like, why didn't I do two and a half years, two and a half years ago?

Why didn't I do it five years ago? Why didn't I do it eight years ago? What have I been doing for 10 years? And I had been just, I looked at my life and I was like, man, for 10 years, I have just only been working on trying to make a relationship with me at work. And when I saw that, I was like, and I didn't have nothing to show.

And it had nothing to show for it. Like I was just like, dang, I'm empty in every way. Like, none of all of that did didn't even matter. None of those guys, it was just like, and I just realized, oh, I have to, what would it look like if I used all my energy towards, with those men? What if I used it towards my life?

And so. I went back to school to get my degree in psychology. So I got psychology. Put me on gay. On like how my behavior, how my patterns, how my life experiences are impacted by my childhood, my mindset, my thought pathobiology and so on. And so I knew then that I wanted to start a company. They helped women understand their psychology and how that can help them heal from workoholism.

You know? And so for five to six and a half years, I built this business wellness business during the boss bitch era, you know, where it's all about being bossy and making money. And I'm talking about self care and self love and mental health. So it was very challenged. It was deeply challenging for me because this wasn't part of the culture yet.

This was not in our social media timelines, you know? So self care, self love was something on the back burner. That was something you got to like on a vacation or something. And so. Ultimately, you know, helping, you know, young people in high schools understand their mind said I was taking on coaching clients to help them with their psychology and mental health.

And I was doing events and I created so much online programming. I used to have a program and a ebook called mindset styling, you know, to help people like actually style their mindset, kind of like a, a parallel of fashion styling. I ended up in 2018, fast forward to 2018. I just kinda got burnt. I won't even say barista.

I was just tired. I just felt like I was just kinda like, yeah, this is not hitting the way that I would want it to hit financially, emotionally, spiritually. My clients are really depending on me to do their emotional labor work and their internal work. So I was like, I don't, I don't. And I was still like you know, Trying to recover from people pleasing, you know, and I needed to do some more work to recover from that, so that people pleasing, spilled over into my client, you know, client con you know, relationship.

And so I just got on my knees and I prayed. I'm like, God, you gotta give me something. You know, to help women understand that they can practice wellbeing, Healy, and integrated into their lives, their high active lifestyle. And that's when I never forget when I got the download, it was affirmation music.

And so when I got that download, I was like, oh my God, this is so cool. So then I Googled it and no one had calling that phrase. It's almost like I get to do this. And so I started to like, listen to other artists that were kind of doing something similar and I'm just like, this is not bopping the way that I want it to bop it wasn't hitting it.

I mean, they were positive, powerful words, but it just, the production wasn't there sonically. It wasn't their lyrics. It just wasn't poetic enough. It didn't feel authentic. It felt performative. And so I was just like, I don't want to do this, you know, so I ended up going to California and taken all my journals, all my writing, the things that I've wrote down from the retreats and spiritual programs that I've taken over the years.

And I took all those rights and I was in California for a month and roll affirmations for the grown ass woman. And I wrote nine songs to represent the nine months. It takes for a woman to create a human being because I wanted women to push play on this album. To be able to grow and develop the woman of their dreams inside out.

And so after a month being a California wrote the album, came back to Michigan, applied for a loan, and I got an, a studio. And that was when it was like, oh, this is something like, but I, but essentially, I mean, I still, my intentions was to create this format client. It wasn't to actually become a musician.

Oh, wow. So that journey was a whole nother, you know, a whole nother journey. Okay. So, so yeah, it's 2019, you know, as soon as I released affirmations for the grown-ass woman to a women's history month, all hell broke, loose everything. Now I consider normal, like I say, in my album and one of my albums, like, you know, my pandemic wasn't.

Yes, my 2020, what happened in 2019. So, I mean, even people close to me were like saying, Tony, you experienced the pandemic before everybody else did. I was like, I know I was like, it's ironic. And so I was at home. I didn't have nothing to do. Like I was my job. I was on leave. Like I ended up being in the hospital because.

Or a suicide watch. It was just a lot that happened. Oh yeah. It was deep. I mean, I'm a little leaving out a lot of juicy details, but these are inquiring minds want to know? Yeah. But I mean, it was just the, you know, to just give you it a hit, I'm still giving details. It was heavy. And so I ended up having to get rid of 80% of my belongings, get rid of my home.

I moved back with family like me for three and a half months, the end of 2019. I was like sleeping in my parent's bed because I was just so I was like really shocked mentally and internally and spiritually from the acceleration of aware. I saw so much about myself. I saw so much about the world. I saw so much about the life I created and the friends that I have trauma bonded with.

And it was just so much that's where I see me. Mantras came from, you know, the album, I see me mantras. And so, you know, I had to ask myself, you know, the divine asked me actually, you know, Who would you be if there was no money, what would you do? If all world problems are solved, where, where your value lies.

And so I had to rediscover who I am. If I lose out on the client, if I was the world to say, you know, I had to literally like crawl to realize my identity outside of the identity I've built for 30 something years, you know? And so, you know, for a while, like just eating fruit or brushing my teeth or taking my shower was my purpose.

It was like I had to crawl back into living my life from a place that satisfied me first. And so. Yeah. So that's when I I'll say in 20 October, 2020 our world mental health day was when I closed my coaching business down and said I was going to go into full-time music. So 2021 was my first full year as a musician.

And so the rest is history. Wow. That's a beautiful story. And I don't know if you've noticed, you've always been ahead of the curve. Like you've been. When you were back in the church, you were trying to save souls, pulling, you know, pulling in a new paradigm for yourself and others. Then with school, you were ahead of the curve.

Looking back at the potential. I don't know, failure's a good word to use, but the relationships that you focused on, you were still ahead of the paradigm pulling in. This new world for yourself and then for your clients. And then as a coach pulling in this new paradigm, again, for yourself and for your clients hopping into the music, I know you said it was for your, for your clients, but ultimately it was for your growth and your like next level up to just going up this damn stair-step.

I don't know if you recognize it, like looking back at your, at your growth and. Your history pattern, but it's like, you've always been a step ahead. And then even what you expressed as your the awakening, when you were shown so much so quickly, I've heard that from so many people who have these, who asked to be shown like, you know, maybe they've hit some type of rock bottom and they're like, okay, God just show me all the truth.

I'm ready for it. No, one's ready for it. We're never ready for it. It's scary. It's crazy. It's like, oh my God, I fucked up everything. It's just a mess, but that's still you being a step ahead because there's so many people who are still like this, not even ready to everyone listening, I covered my eyes, sorry.

Who are covering their eyes and just plugging their ears and not really wanting to see. So like kudos to you for even being open to that. I don't know if. Feel like you're normal, but that's not normal shit. And for everyone listening, if you are in a space where you feel like, yes, I'm ready to be shown, I'm ready to see no here be guided the lead.

Please know it might not be as cutesy as it seems on Instagram. It might be hard and dark and snotty, crying and feeling broken and not wanting to eat and all kinds of dark. And as you get as about yourself, and then as you get expanded vision of what's going on in the world, it's dark shit as well. So I just want to lay that out, not to be a bad news bear, but just to manage expectations about what the spiritual journey can and likely will, if you're bout it, look like for you.

Okay. Betsy Johnny. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, no, I have noticed that. I mean the most family, you know, when I did my, I used to be married years, years ago, I wasn't married super young and I did the decorations, the whole aesthetic, the whole bridal party outfits. The decorations for my, open house, senior graduation, Oakland house. So doing the decorations. You know, different fashion designs that I used to be a stylist. And I thought I was going to be a fashion designer and so on when I was young, very stylish.

Thank you. And my family and people who've known me like close know me for a decade. They were just like, totally, you always been this way. You do something. And then it's like the trend next year. You know, my mom was like, when you made those courses in college, literally it was in every like teen magazine and Vogue magazine, like six months later.

You know, I don't vocalize it to everybody else, but the people who are close to me know that this is what I've always been done. I've always been a trendsetter or a trailblazer, really, you know? And so I've accepted that now. Like, oh, this is what I do. You know, this is part of my path is always to take that step of being a trailblazer.

But you know, what areas are known for that? Zodiac of the Zodiac family, where lack the first sign of trailblazing. So. You don't feel like a label's type of person, but no, you do you accept terms like that you're a seer or that you're intuitive, those type of terms.

 Do those resonate with you because you feel super psychic and I'm just wondering how much you play with it. I'm not into labels that. But when I, when I hear those labels and the terminology and the explanations, they do resonate with me. And being intuitive of, I will say that I've indulged in that gift intentionally more than, than last year than I ever have in my entire.

Yeah, but I've always had unintentionally. Oh yeah. Like I, I realized that I have an emotional intuitives of Gish. Like, I can feel things that people may not feel about themselves, or may not want me to know that they feel about themselves. And so. You know, that's gotten me in trouble many, a times about it, honest about it.

Or I want to control this. I want to control the situations to help people rush their evolution. Like, you know, so it's just like, it's not my job or my role to, to you know, to project my intuition onto someone else. It's like, they have to be, they have to invite. And so I've, I'll say for the past year that I've been learning how to be more mature with my intuition, you know, and just kind of release the control and let people have their ups, you know, excuse my language, but let them have the, let them have their duality there.

Ha like they didn't ask me to show them them. You know what the thing about it is the closer you get to me, it's it's bound to happen, you know? So I've accepted, I've accepted. You know, people keeping boundaries around me because it's like not only way you fuck with me as if you in, you're in love with Bronx all the way.

That's the only way. The only way you fuck with me is if you love yourself, like you're interested in your expansion, you have to at least be interested because if you don't love growth, if you're not interested in your expansion, you will find a store. To say, this is why I don't fuck with her. And I'm not saying everybody should mess with me.

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, I noticed that at that is a, a trait of people who are consistently, you know, close to me or want to, you know, bond or connect is like, they actually mess with growth and they mess myself. Love. Yeah. I love hearing you hearing a woman speak about herself and her power in such a, this is what it is kind of way.

Cause I feel like a lot of people feel like let's small it up and not seem as powerful as we really are. I mean, sometimes I'm going to be honest with you. I have those type of insecurities still. Like real talk. Like I have to let your audience know, even though that this is my state, this is my highest state, because I know how to tap into my highest timeline.

I still have old timelines that are triggered. You know, I still have these old ways of like to, to manage the connection. I have to lower my power. Like that comes up. You know, I have to, in order for me to maintain the connection and the normalcy, like it's times where I feel like, oh, Hold this boundary, this boundary will crush them.

You know, they will create us. You know what I'm saying? And it's usually with the people who are closest to you love the most. Yes. We love the most, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I can, I can throw a little hard boundary with John or Jane, but like the people that you want to, you don't want to hold boundaries with.

You just want to be boundless with. You know, it's is the challenge. So I just want to kind of like highlight that, even though I'm exuding this confidence and talking like, you know, my know my power, like yeah. Catch me on the right day. And you'd be like, what happened? What's going on with what's going on with, it's definitely something I've accepted.

I have that duality. We have to understand that we are handling and caring and managing and accepting that we have decades of a conditioning that we have to hold and carefully.

Even though our enlightenment and our awareness has expanded to where we are aware of our higher self, our truer selves, our more divine selves. The reality is we have a conditioning that has gotten a lot more intention, a lot more energy, a lot more practice. And you know, in time in the gym to be strong, you know what I'm saying?

So the old timeline has some muscle. So just because you become aware in the light and, and you're, you're in this new gym of your divinity, it does not mean that this old self that has had years and years of working out in a gym, it's not going to pop up. That's, that's why it's so important to be involved, invested in, interested in your practice, if not daily, consistently, you know, The only way your divinity is going to rule and reign in your life is if you speed it, as you were talking about the two gyms, those two goals, and which one's going to that old native American quote.

And it's just like, okay, yeah, all have a good Wolf and a bad Wolf. The one that wins is the one that gets, you know, the fed the most, you know, and there is balance. There is bad. But it's like at the end of the day, I feel like when you feed your divine self, your divine self can hold the right, the right space for that other side.

So that other side doesn't pop up in seasons where it's not supposed to be taking the wheel, you know, so. And you mentioned something that I feel is a beautiful segue to your practices. If not daily, then consistent. I love that because it gives people grace to not feel like I must be perfect every morning, for sure.

What are your. Practices consistent practices that feed you, feed your cause. My consistent practice is okay. My ideal. Cause I'm going to tell you my ideal, consistent practice and my consistent practice. Ideal consistent practice daily practice is journaling drinking my hot cup of tea, going for walks.

Doing some yoga. You know meditating doing my affirmations. It's just caring for myself, you know, a little facial, you know, that that will be my, you know, ideal daily practice. But my realistic daily practice is asking myself every morning, how do I feel? How do I want to feel? And what actions support me feeling that way today, you know?

And you know, and I, and I deep breath. You know, when I find myself getting caught up in stories or just stuff, I just, you know, it's like don't underestimate the, the deep breathing powerful. So that's my daily, like, that's something that I do daily, but the one that I consists I consistently do is stretching, stretching, Mumbai.

You know, is important for me as well. I do alter work. Yes. It's so important for me. I think I've connected to my femininity more. I've been able to bring grievances to the alter in ways that have really helped me create space for what is. You know because you rituals do do practice, if you feel comfortable sharing.

Yeah. Yeah. Some of my alter rituals, a candle light, you know, I write things down. I birthdays. Yeah, intentions. What's another thing I use Sage charcoal herbs. Basally the whole, which I love it. I love it. I do worship dancing, like something that's new for me. How'd you get it? Yeah. You know what it naturally happened.

, if something about like being on the floor with candles and flowers does just feel romantic, sexy, and central, it doesn't make, it doesn't make spirituality. So performative, it makes it feel ceremony, you know, like I'm about to be intimate with what's going on inside me.

Because we abandoned our spirits so much. It's so normalized. We're forced to, yeah, we don't, we don't talk enough about what spiritual malnourishment looks like practically. Like when I know nourishment, when I'm not, when I'm, when I'm, I know when I'm spiritually malnourished, meaning that I'm not getting my daily spiritual intake, meaning I, I start to.

It's off type, is it shows up in all type of ways. It's consistent. It could be. Car accidents. It could be just consistent stuff that just it's like energy leaks, even just N just like irritability, getting the wrong different little things. Yeah. Like wrong. Like, yes. I know. That's, that's what happens for me when I read about it, what spiritual malnourishment looks like.

I'm like, yeah. You know, like when I'm eating, when I'm not eating. Like, I'm not eating clean. Like I noticed like little cloudiness comes up. There's not clarity. Like soul spiritual malnourishment is a real thing. So for me all to work helps me take those grievances of like, man, I gotta let this go. I gotta let that go.

And it's okay. But let me create space for myself to create the. You know, so, but that's one of my one, like one of my heavy, consistent practices. It may not be daily, but it's definitely a consistent thing of mine. Other rituals, meditation and meditation. The funny thing about meditation, meditation became something that was like a highlight reel of a practice, right?

Like I did this, I'm learning how to meditate. I used to have a meditation app and everything, but then I came across. One of my elders named Swami. And it was the first time. Well, I won't say the first time, but it was definitely a new way of meditating and that I knew then that this was not going to be just a practice.

This was about to be a lifestyle, you know? And so when I drop into meditation now is so much deeper. It's quicker. It's not a whole bunch of noise, you know, I don't need music to go there. You know, so, so yeah, meditation is another ritual that I bring to the alter as well. I love that. I love all of the practices.

And if you guys, if you guys are taking notes, please know that you don't have to do all the things you have to do, what resonates and those things can change. Bit by bit and just like just like Tony found her, her key for, for meditation. You'll find yours as well. I talk about meditation a lot here and then with clients, and there's always the same stuff about the noise and can't calm my brain, but there's so many different ways to get to it.

So just know that you'll find. Or not will be your meditation. Maybe it'll be journaling or something else. And let me, and let me lighten it up. Let me lighten it up a little bit. I mean, it's times where I light my candles. I light my altar and I'll turn Netflix. Okay. And it literally like, or I'll grab my, I have these paint brushes and coloring utensils, and I just draw, like, I have this book where I draw energy pets.

It's just something I made up in my mind. I'm like, if we had pet energy pets, what would they look like? And I just draw them out. Right. And so like things that are playful, light that feel good. That just help you tap into that, that she, that you had in childhood. Just you did it because it felt good and it was fun.

So if you don't want to be on the deep in, keep it light, keep it fun, but essentially you just want it to feel good. You don't want to be performative when it comes to care for your spirit., I want you all to be mindful of that, to keep it fun and feel good.

You know, sometimes we get caught up in the performative nature of spirituality and self care and a performative of healing and, and it just becomes a task. It becomes a job. Another thing we have to do to be better people or bet you better humans. And it's like, it's not, it's not that it's you gotta do it because it feels good.

It does something for you, you know? And I love to talk about how it's not going to look like everyone. Else's and there's no one look of what's being spiritual. It looks like. With the dreads and, you know, hemp clothing and saying grand rising instead of good morning,

look, lots of different ways. You can be spiritual and Tim's and jeans and a do rag and be just as spiritual. So I don't want you to really. Anything for everyone listening, who feels, I got to be a certain way, just release that release any labeling and boxes that you feel spirituality might be in and you'll feel so much freer and lighter and just choose what feels good.

I love it. I love it. So you did mention in the beginning of talking about your practices, you mentioned listening to your affirmations. Now, when I'm getting ready in the morning, I listened to you to raise my vibe. So who do you listen to? What do you listen to, to raise your. Abraham Hicks, Abraham Hicks and success.

My God mother right there. That's my guy, my mother right there. I also listened to the Vail Goddard very much because I've been really, I don't talk about it a lot, but I really been subscribing to the laws of suggestion and the laws of assumption. And it's really challenging. I'm not going to lie.

This is hard work. The laws of assumption, a laws of suggestion is hard work. Cause it's, it's, it's challenging. Oh, you know? Yes. And your patterns and thought patterns. It's basically saying that I am willing to get rid of all that I know about me and all my beliefs. And I want to tap into the zero state of being on God and saying, this is what it will be.

You know? So the veil got her Abraham Hicks. I'm into teal salon as well. I'm not familiar with her, but I'm going to record it. No, she's not popular, but she's an underground popular woman. And I don't share her with everybody because, but I know that you could rock with TILs Swan till Swan is not for everybody at all.

I've been listening to her. For, let's say four years now yeah. If somebody is for people who are truly have the appetite for supernatural tapping into their supernatural potential, it's not just, I want to know about it and I want to heal. It's like, no, I want to know what it looks like and feels like in to activate my supernatural potential. So I like to Swan.

So that's why I listened to till Swan Abraham Hicks. I love Oh, my goodness, Reverend Williams. What is his Michael Michael Beckwith? Michael Beckwith, and Lisa Nichols. These other people that Alison too, for sure. Awesome. Fantastic. You guys. I hope you wrote those down and let's dig into teal squat together.

Y'all if you like Naval gutter, you will love I forget her name, but she wrote the game of life and how to play. And a few other things. She came before Neville and low key. I'm just making this up. I don't know if this is true. I think nice stuff from her. Forget her name right now. The game of life and how to play and how to play it.

She also, she also wrote your word is your wand.  Florence Scovel. Okay, 

okay. Florence, Scovel shit. She came before Neville and   she came before him and after her work started is when his developed. So I think he took some, some stuff from her cause she was a woman and you know, back then anyway, but that's just me. I'm just making fake gossip about the past.

I don't know. Well, I mean, history shows that women have always been the initiation for men into their higher self. So that, that is. Historically like, no, that men don't enter that portal unless they're in a cave somewhere on a sabbatical being a month, like the other, if you're not doing that, you need a woman to be initiated into those type of enlightenments.

So more than likely it was a woman that he probably was Florence who knows. Yeah, but that's yeah. So I'm glad I'm going to check out to you. You check out before we'll regroup later and talk about, okay. All right. So let's talk. I, I know I just mentioned that I listened to you in the mornings. I love it.

And shout out to Tommy Billingsley who put me on to Tony and made me fall in love with her music. So let's talk about this. You told us about your journey from what you used to be doing in the life coaching space and how you went into the music industry and you coined the affirmation music term.

This niche where you're putting it with the dope music, instead of that, like meditation, Walmart, I want music all the time that we hear. So you made this niche, you created this basically, and then all these other started popping up. Cause you pull that paradigm and for us, thank you. You have the, I see me mantras, the affirmations, your grown ass women.

You have five. Yes. The, get your, my right and the mental health mix, tape affirmations and chill. And then the recently released one in November. Me versus ever me affirmations of some gloves. Okay. What's the.

Really what's next is speaking and performing. I want to give people experiences that it's like, they just can't believe it exists. This has happened me. Like that's what I want them. I want them to like, I'm creating I have one. That I I'm selling right now that complements the album. So basically it's a lifestyle move pack to where you can.

Liz is a listening guy. There's an affirmation lyric books. So there's songs like worth ethic, energy budget, the lyrics that's in this book. It's Sage spray, where you Sage your spread your, your, your space there's essential oil roller ball. There is a and P M incense customer. Everything is customed in the show notes.

Don't go running away from the link in the show notes. Don't worry. We have these amazing shirts that say self-love is us love was just perpetuating and promoting and advocating this message that the whole reason why, you know, we from mold self-love and do self love is not to go off into an island by ourselves, but to give ourselves more opportunity to experience others and relationships and community in healthier ways.

Self-love is that literally the only portal to access that, you know so you know, whether it's a product, whether it's a event, whether it's virtual or in person or I'm performing, or I'm speaking. Cause I have a lot of dates and where I'm speaking this year and performing and guiding affirmation meditation, I do that as well for events and parties or things like that.

No matter what it is, I want people to feel like, what is this. Like I want them to feel something. Yes, yes. I want, I want, I want everything. I want everything to make them feel themselves, feel that good thing like this, like, man, I feel seen and connected and heard and I matter like, and I want that to be infused into everything that I do or create.

So for sure product. And items and creations that compliment the affirmation, conscious lifestyle, you know, like incidents, you know, the things that, you know, what we wear, the messages that we wear and clothing, and then just events and experiences like sound healing. And, you know, speaking to just, you know, promote that message of talking to yourself better, you know, having healthier, holy or self.

You are going to transform a lot of lives and your future is a hell of a lot bigger than what you just described. You gave us this little tiny portion of what's to come for Tony. And even, even as you're saying, The vastness of what's truly on the way for you. So I'm very excited to see what actually comes despite this little juicy portion that you gave us.

Yeah. This is juice. A little portion. I mean, was a morsel. I think, I think miracles. Yes. Miracles. Very expansive. They're expansive miracles. Eye opening jaw dropping. There have goals that I believe that I am being prepared for it to be, you know, to channel that energy through the people who are ready. So I definitely feel that preparation for sure.

It's something I've wanted since I was a child. I didn't mention this in the interview, but I've said it in other interviews, like growing up in the church, it was like, I never wanted to be a Christian. Like, I, I, wasn't trying to be a Christian at that at all their eyes. Also the T's I was reading about this guy as a young girl, this man named Jesus that was walking on water and turning water into wine, raising people from the dead healing, the sick casting out tormenting spirits on it and energies out of people.

I was like, I want to do that. Sign me up for that. Cause this already I was, I was just like this whole getting A's in school, having a great credit score. And like that stuff was born at the credit. I mean, it's like, no it's practical and part of this reality, but I was disenchanted with the system. I was like, if this is real, why are we learning how to do this?

So I've always had the appetite, but I never held, I never had spaces to have those conversations. So I just found out ways to make myself more palatable, make myself more. You know, because I did not hear women talking about how to perform miracles and how to tap into their supernatural potential. I didn't hear that in.

I didn't see it. So I was just like, maybe that's just weird that I feel and think this way, you know? And so now I look back and I'm like, oh, oh, you know? Yeah. You are doing this literally. That's what you're doing now. You're creating other people. You are blocking shit for everyone who hears you and for whom it resonates, you are unlocking this miraculous.

Yes. You're helping us well, a certain subset of us get to like reach that critical mass where we will tip the balance where it's. More of us who are on that awakened past than not, you're doing big, big work. So next time somebody asks me what's next for you? I want you to be like miracles and big shit.

Don't give up. I'm going to speak out of that and said

yes. So, right. You're absolutely right. That would definitely be my answer. Moving forward. All right. Well, this was amazing. Is there any one message you want to leave with this audience or, or, or have you poured out? I will. I want to just say as bomb, don't take any of anything. Seriously. Don't take me too seriously.

Have fun, play a lot. Find out what brings you joy and what feels good to you and keep doing more of that. Let that be your guiding. Like, yeah, that's what I encourage and want to lead to new law. I love that you guys, a million links are in the show notes for this episode. Some are for, excuse me, Tony's music.

Some are for that pack that she mentioned. Just go check out all the links by all the things, listen to all the things. Okay. And I will see you guys in a week and we thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Danny. I appreciate you a million times, a million percent. You guys I'll see you next week.

Thanks so much for listening